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Married with Children Volume 3: The Happy Family

As established in Volumes 1 & 2 of our “Married with Children” series on communication tips and tricks to a positive Project Manager/Business Analysis relationship, nothing can positively or negatively affect a project team more than the PM/BA relationship.

In The Dating Game we concentrated on the first date, or the PM/BA Kickoff Meeting, where the foundational structure of the PM/BA team is laid. Then we continued with The Newlywed Game and establishing a regular PM/BA One-On-One where we may groom our relationship over the project life-cycle.

In this volume, The Happy Family, we’re going to discuss those major relationship “Do’s” you should follow to become and remain an effective PM/BA team that can help your project team weather any storm.

So, you’ve met, fell in love, or at the very least, learned about each other enough to work together toward a united goal. You’ve had a few kids, or rather a project team of sponsors, programmers, analysts, SMEs and so on. You’re having regular family meetings, but as a couple you have to communicate with each other through the daily grind, not just when time allows. You each have your own jobs, or project roles, but at the end of the day, you both come together for dinner every night, right? Here’s some major communication do’s or best practices to follow if you’re to remain a healthy PM / BA team:

1. Manage the Project and Product Scope

Every parental unit understands what jobs they “own” in the house, right? One pays the bills and approves the budget. The other figures out what the kids want for lunch and get them off to school. Do you know your role in your project house? As a PM you’ll need to remind yourself from time to time that you are in charge of the project scope. For the BA, you have the product scope.

Friction in a PM/BA team usually stems from one or the other treading too heavily into the other’s responsible areas. That’s not to say that you don’t both paddle to the other side of the pool from time to time, but at the end of the day you should have control of your area of responsibility. Responsibilities you hopefully discussed and set during your kickoff or one-on-one meetings earlier in your relationship.


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2. Communicate Change

If anything affects either side of the project or product house, the other has got to hear about it as soon as possible. The sooner you engage in change control, the easier it is to mitigate, even if it means doing nothing. The important thing is that you are both aware so you can adjust as needed.

3. Check in with the Sponsor – One Voice

Now here’s one thing that enough PMs and BAs do not do, and it’s becoming more of an issue as technology continues to replace human to human interaction. Check in with your sponsor. This is not a status report, they can read those anytime. This is an honest to goodness conversation. And don’t have it together. A sponsor will often have a different level of comfort and communication style with the PM than the BA, especially in environments where the BAs are sourced from the business or the PMs and BAs are part of their own independent centers of excellence. You want to have a casual conversation, lunch or just a quick drive by their desk on a semi-regular basis to ensure you maintain rapport, build trust and understand underlying motivations of the project sponsor. Ask simple questions or leading statements such as “How do you feel the project is going so far?” or “Just checking in to make sure what I’m doing is still aligned with your goals for the project.” Take what you learn that could have a potential impact to the project and share it w/ each other. Then talk about your thoughts and findings in your PM/BA Status Meeting! You want try to communicate to the project team with one voice whenever possible – and that voice should be aligned with the project sponsor and most importantly aligned with each other at all times.

4. Maintain Peer-to-Peer Thinking

This last one isn’t something you typically tackle together, but you’re both responsible for it. There is no one person that leads a project to success. It’s a team effort, and remembering that and keeping it in your mind with all your interactions is vital to a healthy partnership. The PM is not more important or better than the BA and vice versa. The PM is not the BA’s manager or boss. The BA is not the sole voice of the business. Keep your scope in mind and your intentions pure, and you’ll be able to successfully wade through the waters together.

Following this simple but often overlooked list of PM/BA Do’s will add another level of trust in your relationship, and keep your project family feeling secure in the fact that they have a strong leadership team at the helm.

Look out for the final installment of the Married with Children series, The Broken Home – PM/BA Relationship Don’ts, coming soon.

AI is Saving Lives – Surely it Can Save a Project

I recently read about a Copenhagen-based startup that has developed artificial intelligence (AI) that can listen in on emergency 911 calls and help dispatchers detect victims of cardiac arrest.

When you are in cardiac arrest, every lost minute decreases your chance of survival by 10%, so any chance of saving those critical minutes in response to a possible cardiac arrest victim is extremely important. The AI in this case analyzes words and non-verbal sounds that indicate someone is in cardiac arrest. It is able to do that after it has trained itself to spot warning signs by analyzing a massive collection of emergency call recordings over a period of time. In one study, it was found that this startup’s AI was able to detect cardiac arrest with a 95% accuracy, compared to 73% for Copenhagen’s human dispatchers.

If AI can save lives like this – apparently 22% more accurately than humans can – can it save or improve project delivery? Probably. Is it cost effective or cost prohibitive? I’m not sure… likely cost prohibitive at the moment but I’m betting that will change in the not too distant future. How would you use it to improve project delivery in your organization? Well, this is where probably gets sort of out there and it’s more like playing a project management “wishing” game than dwelling in the real world at the moment.

So, let’s play. Let’s look at five ways I’ve been considering – assuming project and PMO budget isn’t necessarily an issue…

Status calls. If AI can listen to 911 dispatch calls and recognize signs of cardiac arrest in potential call in victims, then surely it can be similarly trained to listen in on project status calls and detect confident and concerned tones in both the customer team and the project delivery team. Lots of comments happen during those critical weekly calls – certainly an AI tool could learn to detect concerned responses and probably even detect honest answers and when a respondent was holding back. Change it into a video conference and AI can detect facial expressions and non-verbal communications. That’s when it can really provide some key benefits – though it would feel a little big-brotherish. Like the Planet P Project song… “they’ve got the cutest little cameras hanging everywhere… after awhile you just forget they’re there…”


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Team meetings. AI could listen to team meetings and collect all of the status update information and – assuming everything is configured correctly – update things like the project schedule, issues list, risk ledger, change orders and other key project information with latest and greatest progress and status info. From that, it could probably do a great job of creating a standard agenda and status report to use for the regular weekly status call mentioned above. I’m sure this sounds as if it were going to be replacing the human project manager, but that should never be the case, no matter how advanced AI becomes.

Change orders. AI should be able to eavesdrop on status calls with the client and other key calls and emails and sort out discussions that seem to have requests that are out of scope. Having the AI “learn” everything about the project – including the detailed requirements as documented during early planning – to understand the current scope at any point in time would allow it to recognize discussions that were leaning towards work that would actually be out of scope for the project. It could then automatically create suggested draft change orders for the project manager and team to review and modify before presenting to the project client. With the input of proper costing and historical estimating and actuals for similar work, it could probably do a very good job of coming up with an initial estimate as well. Learning over time would only serve to tighten that estimate.

Issue tracking. Anything we can have AI track on the project likely ensures more accuracy, more potential for help with solutions as the AI learns the issue tracking and reporting processes as well as understanding the goals and mission of the project, the milestones, and the technology in use. Think about it, the possibilities are endless. Would all of this change project management as we know it? Definitely. Would project managers become expendable? I don’t think so and I certainly hope not. It will be a scary “Rollerball” type society if we allow too much AI takeover.

Risk assessment. Just as AI could assist in issue tracking, it could be invaluable for identifying, tracking, assessing and managing the whole risk process throughout the project. AI learns and grows and as it takes in more data on one project and all projects in a company’s portfolio, the data and history that AI could develop and retain on all projects could be invaluable to a company’s success.

Summary / call for input

AI. Project management. Are we at a point where we are ready to combine the two? I doubt it. I think the overall cost is too prohibitive at this point – at least to a point where we can price it in as a genuine project expense and justify it to a client. If our organization is utilizing artificial intelligence currently and we want to incorporate it into the PM process then that’s one option. But to seek AI at this stage and justify the cost of the technology and the personnel to develop, modify and incorporate through training and ongoing maintenance and oversight… likely that would be $500,000 – $1 million per year for awhile, if not more.

It’s probably going to be hard or impossible to justify unless we are looking at something very high end, very cutting edge and very evolving – possibly like NASA’s space program or any one of a number of medical fields, organizations and pharmaceutical suppliers. They may all have the money or the means to get it funded. Your average professional services delivery organization will not have that kind of money and time and resources in 2018.

Readers – what’s your take? It’s unlikely that many, if any, of us have actually touched AI technology so far in our technical careers or project management initiatives. If you have, I’d like to hear from you – please share any experiences you’ve had with AI and your thoughts on it’s uses now and in the not too distant future helping organizations really win on projects… not just “do a little better.” Are there applications for it in PM? Share your thoughts and opinions.

From the Sponsor’s Desk – Six Strategies to Manage Project Chaos

“Our real discoveries come from chaos, from going to the place that looks wrong and stupid and foolish.”
― Chuck Palahniuk, Author

I’m sure we’ve all been racked by project chaos at one time or another – too many conflicting priorities, lack of clarity, directional changes, unanticipated influences, not enough resources or not enough of the right skills, technology troubles… And then there’s the old squeeze play, an immoveable target date and lots of unanticipated and mostly uncontrollable delays.

But sometimes, out of chaos comes clarity – new awareness, new insights, new skills, new confidence, great new relationships, and the realization that, in spite of how dark the situation looks, there are almost always paths to success. That’s where the six strategies to manage project chaos come in.

In this story, we’ll hear about the actions taken by an individual, his team and his organization to extricate his project from certain doom. We’ll see how those actions turned a potentially disastrous outcome for his company and its client into a successful achievement. And we’ll discover the new capabilities and realizations the experience delivered for the individual and the organization.

Thanks to Ian MacGillivary for the details on this story.

The Situation

This small North American technology services company provided custom software development and infrastructure deployment services to a variety of clients. A niche service was the development and installation of kiosks with custom software for trade shows and sales demonstrations.

The company was approached by a major telecommunications vendor to develop and deliver a smart phone application in support of a new service they were launching in four months time. The demo app was to be installed on 4,500 phones and 500 Android and Windows tablets each.

Ian MacGillivary was the Infrastructure Deployment Specialist. When the request was received from the telecommunications company, Ian was asked to provide a plan and estimate for the rollout work. This project was on a much larger scale than their usual contracts but, using his experience on similar but much smaller projects, he figured 15 minutes per device would do the job. He developed the estimate and plan and passed the information back to the Vice President responsible for their bid.

They were awarded the contract!

The Goal

To develop and install the custom demonstration software on the smartphones and tablets and ship them to 2000 target sites by the target date four months hence within the parameters of the fixed price contract.

The Project

Ian had recognized that his firm did not have the staff nor the facilities to handle the volume of smartphones and tablets the customer required. He had recommended contracting with another firm with those capabilities. He interviewed three firms who had the experience to provide the services they sought but their estimates for the effort required varied widely and differed substantially from his own. He passed on his recommendations and waited for a decision.

Concurrently, the signing of the contract with the client was delayed. That meant that the development of the software, the shipment of smartphones and tablets from the client and the delivery of the location addresses and specific guidance on smartphone and tablet disbursements were also delayed. But the target date stayed the same. What started out as a four month duration project was being compressed daily.

Ian went back to the drawing board and redrafted his plan from the target date back. The reworked plan provided ten weeks to get the job done versus the original sixteen weeks. When the contract was finally signed, there were just seven weeks left to the target date. The plan was reworked again, this time with even more activity overlap and compressed time frames.

A vendor was selected to manage the build process, one that Ian had not interviewed. As he brought them up to speed on the project and started to assign work, they stumbled. Ian stated “They assumed it would be a simple install the device, put it in box job. We sent them the initial installation steps, and the initial configuration, and we could cut the tension with a knife.” It became apparent that they weren’t up for the job.

Another vendor, one of the ones that had been interviewed and the most expensive, agreed to take on the job. They were accomplished at large scale rollouts. They immediately pointed out gaps in the plan:

  • Security: 5000 or so devices have a book value in the millions of dollars. That required security guards, cameras, a metal detector.
  • Space: How much space does 5000 devices take up? Where are they going to be stored? How are they going to be moved? With the numbers involved, a loading dock was essential for shipments in and out.
  • Packaging: were the devices going to be packaged individually or by destination?
  • Shipping supplies: How many shipments? How many boxes and plastic envelopes? How many mailing labels?
  • Desk space: how many people configuring and packing devices?
  • Process control: How do you plan on ordering the work, on tracking the work?

As the challenges mounted, the client added another wrinkle: they wanted to track usage of the devices by location. That meant an analytics function was required and each individual device needed to be assigned to and tracked by location. Another surprise: the plans assumed the Windows tablets would be Android tablet sized.

When the very large boxes arrived, it was discovered they were all-in-one Windows PC’s with 18” screens. The plans and procedures were reworked again.

And the work continued.

The Results

In the end, the smartphones and tablets equipped with the demonstration and tracking software were received by all target sites prior to the planned launch date. Only one problem was reported – a device went to the wrong location. The location had been closed prior to the project but the destination list had not been updated by the client.

Unfortunately, the profit targets for the project were not achieved because of the switch in vendors, the compressed time frame and the added costs involved. But, the company did have a satisfied client and a boatload of lessons learned.

What a Great Team Learned

Think about it! A project involving the custom configuration, packaging and delivery of thousands of devices across the country, originally planned for 16 weeks and ending up with less than half of that, and still successfully delivered! Ian looks back on the following lessons learned:


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  1. The Human Factor – As Ian stated, “At the end of the day, everyone pulled together. Directors were at Kinkos getting papers printed at 3:00 am, developers were running our staging floor and Vice Presidents were bringing coffee. Everyone, when the chips were down, did everything needed. To me, that was the only way we could have survived and executed the project successfully. Everyone wanted things to succeed and for us to do well. The buy in of the organization, and of the people in the organization was, in the end, the key factor”.
  2. Getting the scope right – Locking down the scope is essential, especially in fixed price contracts. More time up front with people who had the experience would have helped immeasurably. According to Ian, “one big problem with the project was we under-scoped the logistical arrangements. I still have my original plan, and even that was scarily under scoped. Even the project team was under-scoped. A lot of people had too much span and not enough depth. We always had to go back and add in more space, more people, more, more, more”. At the end of the project, the Vice President stated “next time we decide to be ambitious or try something new, we do it as time and materials”.
  3. It’s the little things – The little things are what cause projects to go off the rails. It is the classic “for want of a nail”. According to Ian “Not understanding one word in a statement of work caused hundreds of hours of heartache, misery, and nearly caused us to miss the deadline. Not communicating about the requirements for networking, cost tens of thousands of dollars in direct cost, and lost productivity. Not looking at box size caused a massive overrun in costs. Fortunately the client was willing to swallow that. Not adding in a QA / Documentation person caused things to be left until the last minute. All of that was overcome, yet if we had taken more time, more attention, and focused on the little things, we would have avoided it all.”
  4. Early decision making – Decisions made earlier cause less issues with the project than decisions that are put off until later. As Ian stated, “We always had the problem of not making decisions quickly enough early on. We never were able to get ahead of the 8 ball. Things cost more in a rush. By the end of it, we would have paid double if we had to. Decisions often times became bogged down in the mud. This cost us time.”
  5. If it’s a priority, treat it that way – Unfortunately, the practice at the company was to assign staff to multiple projects based on availability to maximize productivity and minimize bench time. As demand escalates, the work load on individuals also increases. Ian and a number of staff involved in the project put in 100 hour weeks. Tired people make mistakes. Fatigue costs productivity.
  6. The importance of simulation, gaming and tabletop exercises – Gaming out scenarios, simulating, having the project team run and talk out tasks on a tabletop would have allowed for better optimization when executing the project. According to Ian, “On the project, we simulated a lot of things. However, they always were limited. We weren’t able to look at the whole install procedure until late in the project. We never stopped to play things out. We were forced to do things haphazardly or in small chunks to react to problems. If we all had sat in a room and ran a table-top exercise of how this would work from start to finish, everything from box opening, to shipping, we would have been able to find our holes and our weaknesses and actually have a realistic understanding of what was required. One of the big things was that there was never an entire team simulation, from start to finish.” As Ian explained “I wanted my 78 year old aunt to be able to read the process and be able to execute.”

These six lessons learned helped Ian and his organization survive a very challenging situation. Hopefully they will also inform their actions going forward, serving as proven strategies for managing project chaos.

So, be a Great Leader. Put these points on your checklist of things to consider so you too can conquer, or preferably avoid project chaos. Also remember, use Project Pre-Check’s three building blocks covering the key stakeholder group (including the key stakeholder roles), the decision management process and Decision Framework best practices right up front so you don’t overlook these key success factors.

Finally, thanks to everyone who has willingly shared their experiences for presentation in this blog. Everyone benefits. First time contributors get a copy of one of my books. Readers get insights they can apply to their own unique circumstances. So, if you have a project experience, good, bad and everything in between, send me the details and we’ll chat. I’ll write it up and, when you’re happy with the results, Project Times will post it so others can learn from your insights. Thanks

What the New PMBOK® Guide Means for PMP Certification and How to Digest It – Part 2

This is the second of a two-part article pertaining to the new PMBOK® Guide. In the first part, I highlighted the changes.

In this second part, I suggest an approach to digesting the new version and share some thoughts about the exam changes.

Thoughts About the PMP® Certification Exam Change 

The big day is Monday, March 26, 2018. That is the first day the revised version of the exam will be administered to reflect the latest version of the PMBOK®. Below are a couple of things to keep in mind regarding this, or any PMI exam update:

Except for the CAPM, PMI exams are not specifically based on the PMBOK® or any PMI standard. They are based on analysis of what people do in a particular role as outlined in the Role Delineation Study (RDS) and the Exam Content Outline (ECO) that is created from that study. The PMBOK® and other standards ensure language and terminology consistency and they help ensure that questions are rooted in the profession’s common, best practices. In fact, the biggest changes to a PMI exam are initiated by a change to the RDS and resulting ECO. Theoretically, then, there is no reason to expect huge changes to the exam in March.

The other thing to keep in mind is that the PMBOK® may be over 750 pages, but the PMP exam is still 200 questions. The PMP exam has always been a little bit about a lot of things, and that isn’t changing. To the extent that the PMBOK® is a key source for PMP certification exam prep, the revised exam will now be a little bit about even more…which makes it even shallower and wider.

While I don’t think there’s reason to expect a significantly more difficult exam in March, I would recommend waiting until a couple of months after March and paying attention to informal feedback about the exam on LinkedIn and other social media. People will share their perceptions of the exam in social media groups which can be helpful as one prepares for the test.

How In The World Can I Absorb All These Changes?

First, note that there are three parts to the new PMBOK® Guide.

Part 1 includes the Introduction, Environment, Role of the Project Manager, and the Knowledge Areas. This is the vast majority of the book and goes into detail on the processes, inputs, tools and techniques, and outputs.If you are already familiar with the PMBOK®, you can probably keep track of where you are at while reading this section.

Part 2 If you are new to the PMBOK®, however, you might want to start with Part 2, The Standard for Project Management. This covers many of the same concepts in Part 1 but at a higher level. More importantly, this section goes through the processes by Process Group (PG) rather than by Knowledge Area (KA), which is helpful to understand what project managers really do (PGs), as opposed to what they know (KAs). The PMP exam is organized by PG rather than KA, so this is also a good resource for certification exam prep. Plus, the descriptions of the processes in Part 2 are described along with identification of the inputs and outputs only – without tools and definitions and descriptions of the inputs and outputs, making it less confusing for those not familiar with it.


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Part 3 also contains helpful information that might be worth looking at before going into the weeds in Part 1. Previous editions of the PMBOK® included Appendix X1 with the new edition changes. However, in past editions, I was slow to get to the appendices because I wanted to get into the details. With this edition, assessing the enormity of the task quickly led me to these less “popular” sections of the PMBOK. Simply breaking it down will make it less overwhelming, easier to absorb, and will make and your training easier.

The appendices are extremely helpful. Here is a summary:

  • Appendix X1. If you want to know what the changes are from the Fifth Edition, they are handily captured in Part 3’s Appendix X1. Not only are the changes identified, but the rules around construction of the PMBOK® are listed here which is helpful. For example, “Outputs from one process should become an input into another process unless the output is a terminal output or embedded within another input such as project documents.” (page 640). That’s handy to know! This is discussed in Part 1, but it is easier to catch in Part 3.
  • Appendix X3, X4, and X5 are very helpful in their summary presentation of information that is included at the beginning of each KA chapter. Specifically, X3 goes into how the project life cycle (adaptive, iterative, hybrid, etc.) impacts the processes described in Part 1, but it does so by Process Group. Again, this is helpful from the standpoint of understanding how project management really works.
  • Appendix X4 and X5. These include all the Key Concepts that are presented at the beginning of each KA in Part 1. And Appendix X5 includes all the Tailoring Considerations needed for adaptive, iterative, and other life cycles that were identified at the beginning of each KA in Part 1. It is very helpful to have these sections consolidated in one place to review together, as opposed to reading the Key Concepts and Tailoring Considerations specific to each KA one chapter at a time.
  • Appendix X6 presents a matrix summarizing which process utilizes each tool. It includes a reference guide for all the Tools and Techniques described in Part 1. Throughout Part 1, the tools are defined and described in detail the first time they are mentioned, then subsequent inclusions of the tool reference the original section where it was defined. Getting a sense of where and how the tools are used can be challenging. Appendix X6 shows where to find the detailed description of each tool. This makes it easy to look up where the tool is defined and where it is used.

Overall, even for those of us who have been steeped in PMBOK-ese for many years, this new edition is a lot to digest. Taking a little time to assess how it’s organized yields a better approach to understanding it.

I’d love to hear what your plans are for certification and your exam experience. Good luck!

Be Prepared for the Returning Project

So you don’t win every project proposal – or your organization doesn’t win every project they go after.

In fact, unless you’re at the top end in your industry, you may only win 2-10% of the projects you go after. We’ve all had those projects that we really wanted badly and spent a significant amount effort proposing and negotiating and maybe even a little begging… but still they got away from us. Maybe the potential client kept the project in house or went with another vendor. You priced it out accurately, you documented the work, you showed your experience, you wooed the client, you probably even came back with a lower price if you really wanted the project. But in the end they didn’t choose you for some reason. You can ask them why – and you should because they may help you next time with this client or with your next proposal.

At the end of the day, the other deal that they were mulling over from another vendor or the implied savings by taking the work inside their own shop was just too good to pass up so they said “no” to you and went with the alternative. It happens. I’m an independent consultant, I consider myself to be very experienced and fairly successful, and I get told “no” a lot. It happens. We can’t let it get us down or damage our egos. Because every time we hear “yes” – and hopefully that’s fairly often – someone else is being told “no”, too. Someone has to lose. The problem is, deep down you know the quality of your work and the fairness that you priced that work at.

So, what next? The only thing you can do is move on to the next potential client and so on and so on. But if you are as experienced and as good as you think and hopefully know you are… and your organization as the right amount of talent, experience, and solid project delivery reputation… then be prepared at all times to have that client who rejected you come back to you as soon as their “alternative” plan doesn’t take off as expected.

If and when they do come back to you…

Be ready, but different.

You need to be ready, of course, but your old plan or proposal doesn’t work any more – at least not if the work has already started. In fact, you may stand to make even more revenue and an even better profit margin when you go to reprice the remainder of the project. Remember, you may be taking over a mess and there will be hidden elements to this mess. There is no need to price it to win it. Now you need to price it to make some money and truly do the project right. You probably have the client at your mercy, but don’t take advantage of it – you want to win them for the long haul and have them appreciate it… not regret it.


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Give them something extra.

The client came back to you and they learned a lesson in the process. Don’t rub it in. In fact, go overboard in showing them how pleased you are to have received their business after you didn’t get it the first time around. Give them something for free…perhaps a deliverable, or an onsite project team member, or training on the final solution. Something that won’t go overboard and cause you to not make a good profit, but rather something that does at least show some decent value, thought and appreciation.

Try something new.

Do you or your organization have an area of interest and innovation but not – or maybe any – experience with it? Include it in the new proposal or possibly offer it as a new concept or addition to the project. I don’t have much experience with virtual desktop interfaces or white papers, but I knew the client had interests and needs there so when they came back to me I offered to provide that service as well. It not only made the client happy, it gave me experience with two things I wanted to try and made money for me then and in the future as well. Win-win. Try something new and be innovative. You’ll likely perform better on it than you fear – because you are a professional and your organization works hard to succeed, not to fail. Your project client will find that interesting and wonder why they didn’t stick with you in the first place.

Look to the future.

Finally, think about the future. Always be thinking about the future. It’s not always about today, or getting the client on board now, or getting the client that you lost back on board and wanting your work. It’s about keeping them for the next project down the road and so on and so on. So price it fair, show gratitude that they came back to seek out your services and never say “I told you so.” Be professional and always have that eye on the future projects they may be bringing to you.

Summary / call for input

The bottom line is you did your best to win the first time around. The key to getting back what was originally lost is to be patient and know you priced yourself and your services properly. The lack of confidence will show if you can’t just let it go when you lose. Wish them well and tell them the door is always open if their plans change. That gives them confidence and helps them to understand that there are no hard feelings and you still want their business whether the need arrives on this project or the next.

What about the readers out there? What have been your experiences with customers saying “no” and then turning around and changing their mind in a week, or a month or after a big failure with the other chosen organization? How did you handle it? Please share and discuss.